What do you make of American politics? There are two changes happening now: One is a push towards conservatism; the other is a push back against that.
So American democracy is not over yet. Democracy, of course, depends on this apparition between the judiciary and the executive branch. We do notice that people are taking steps to try to protect that.
The pivot is if Trump fires Mueller—what is Congress going to do then? And what are people going to do then? We have no idea what else might be in the box. Why do you think that is? It seems to be very worrisome to people. People seem to want—they want to ask that question. Does that make it a feminist novel?
Are things better or worse for women since you published the book in ? These things are always push, push, push and pushback. You can chart the actions and the reactions. The 50s was a pushback decade for women's rights, the 40s was a push forward.
What kind of decade are we in now? One would have to be lunatic to predict anything. There seems to be a kind of battle royale between extreme right-wing and left-wing push backers. Those kinds of divisions are more extreme now than any time that I can remember.
Margaret Atwood at a press conference during the Frankfurter Book Fair It started in Texas, and they wanted to do it in a legislature. They just sit there, and everybody sees that and knows what it means. All of these shows are team efforts, and they involve a prodigious number of people. What was it like to go back to these characters and imagine their stories beyond the novel? For a television series, it makes a lot of sense.
In the series, we can follow them and we do find out what happens to them. Do you have another cameo this season? I do not have a cameo in this season.
Hulu Bruce Miller has said that Season 2 deals more with Gilead's racial politics. Yes, because he listens to feedback. That was one of the things people said: In the original novel, [Gilead does] the South African [method of segregation] of years past. Bruce made the decision that there would be many more multiracial relationships than there had been, since it was in the present time.
Because it was in the American past very recently. Remember how old I am! I existed for quite a while before the civil rights movement. I saw it in action. Any response to that? Maybe they should read some history. Maybe they should read some of their own history. We wonder a little about some of the Marthas in the narrative—whether in the ancient American south, they would have been in trouble for being mixed-race.
Like where you can go safely, and also a fair process involving third-party professional investigators. Do you feel the original movement was lacking those resources? If there is no structural support, what else can you do? It may be the fuel for those solutions. A person who has a very good essay on the subject is Ursula K. Le Guin, in her last book, No Time to Spare. It was a miniseries.
Oh well, of course. Maybe in the next life.